Selena Gomez

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[01:38] mother's favorite recipe. All of that and more in this episode. But, you know, we always have guests tell us about our guests. We always talk well behind our guests back and have someone special to talk about them. And today we have, well, one of my comedy legends, a person who came on an early episode of this show and who a lot of people don't know has totaled my car three times. [02:07] Thank you. [02:07] Martin Short. Marty? [02:20] Thank you for coming back. I was just saying... Hey, by the way, I loved our show. Me too. It was such a hit. [02:27] Nothing was funnier than when you called me a motherfucker. [02:33] Where are you? [02:35] I'm in Toronto. Oh, fantastic. You know, I think I told you I went to Canada a lot in the summers and it was always cold. But is it warm there right now? You know, it got insanely hot because we're spiraling toward the sun. Yeah. And it got very hot and very humid. No, the lake got to be 81. I know you don't believe it. [02:56] That's good. And I know you'd still call that a cold plunge, but not for Canadians. Have you cold plunge since we talked? No, ma'am. Oh, well, I can tell.

[03:08] You can tell by the skin. I can tell by your disposition. Very fiery. You know what? By the way, fuck off, okay? [03:17] We're going to talk to Selena today, who I don't think I've ever really met. Really? She's absolutely lovely. I know, and I... [03:25] I want to tell her, you know, this part of the show is like talking well behind somebody's back. Who are you talking to about that? [03:32] You. Like you're talking. I'm talking just me. Yeah. You're the person I'm talking to. Do you think this is just me calling you? You have to let me know when we're recording, because if we're recording, we're recording right now. What? OK, I'm glad I'm talking to you about Selena, because I remember when we were together. [03:53] I said, oh, what's it like working with her? And you were like, she's great. [03:57] like you said she's just a doll and i remember thinking oh it's so good to hear because [04:04] That's the vibe I got from her and wanted it so much to be true. But I do feel like you can tell a lot about somebody by how they work. Yeah. I mean, the thing is about Selena – [04:14] Is that she is just. [04:16] An old pro. I had never met her the first day we shot. [04:21] And we had zoomed and it was because of COVID, you know, you just have to zoom all the time. And as I'm driving there, I'm thinking. [04:29] What is Selena Gomez going to be like? What if she's... [04:33] A nightmare. What if she's mean to people? [04:37] is kind of rude.

[04:40] I like I knew if she was late. [04:43] 40 minutes late every day, Steve would say, very good one season. I don't care how big a success I'm not doing it. And so right away, I met her in the makeup room and she smiled at me and I went, ah, we're fine. And she's just been a doll. We've really, really become very, very close. I just adore her. I'm so happy that she's getting married to this fabulous guy, Benny Blanco, who just the [05:11] one of the great cool guys and funny and loose and she adores him. And, um, [05:19] I don't know. I'm just thrilled for her happiness and I'm thrilled to get to work with her. Yeah. Well, you know, I bet I know that she gets asked a lot what it's like, like what she's learned from working with you and Steve. But what have you learned from working with her? Uh, [05:34] Thank you. [05:35] I knew everything. Yeah, it looks like nothing. It looks like you've stopped learning. I learned you can order an egg with caviar on it and not be ashamed. That's my name. [05:51] Caviar egg. You never gave yourself permission to do that before. I didn't, and I don't know what I was waiting for. First of all, I don't like caviar. But secondly, it was I'm me. And, you know, that's my new book. I'm me. [06:05] Cohen, I deserve this. The actual working title is I is me. I did a special once called I, Martin Short, Goes Hollywood.

[06:15] A little bit of bad grammar is the funniest thing in the world. So funny. Now, do you have to have extra security? Because... [06:25] you work with Selena, like, on set and stuff? Because you guys shoot in New York a lot, which is not fun. Yeah, yeah. She has a security person. We have a security person. But what's amazing is if we shoot on the street, which is... [06:39] Not often, but certainly happens a lot. [06:42] Um, that doesn't make any sense. Not often, but happens a lot. Anyway, um, you know, Steve and I are working and doing a scene. There might be nine guys there kind of disinterested for about 40 minutes and then they walk away and you never, ever see those pictures. When Selena joins us, there's about 120 paparazzi and they're there all day. Yeah. [07:05] And I'm sure they're just waiting for her to fall or stumble or stumble. [07:09] mean, you know, that would therefore... [07:14] They could make more money from it. So she's just been that's been her life. [07:19] I don't think... [07:20] Um, [07:21] And she... [07:24] Does have security on the streets. We all do. But she is so lovely with them. And they've been in her life for so long. And the only time I ever saw her get a little stern is when they were a little abrupt to, like, this 14-year-old fan of hers. And she said, never do that. Yeah. You know. You can't fault her. [07:44] You really... [07:45] Okay, I'll tell you what's really bad about it. You can't, there's no way to. And the other thing I do want to talk to her about today is, I mean, she's the founder of a hugely successful business.

[07:58] And, you know, just because we've all grown up with her, I think people think she's younger than she is. I mean, she's a. [08:05] 33-year-old woman running a billion-dollar business. We once compared each other's net worth, and I told her what my net worth was, and she went, oh, that's so cute. That's just adorable. You guys both wrote it on a piece of paper and just slipped it to each other? I went like this. [08:27] Wow. And she goes this. [08:30] You know what? It's amazing. I've never seen her. I mean, she has literally like, I don't know, 490 people. [08:38] million Instagram followers. I've never [08:42] seen her [08:44] overrun by it all, [08:46] collapsing from the pressure of it all. [08:49] And so a question for her might be, [08:52] Is it ever overwhelming and too much? Mm-hmm. [08:56] I also think another thing to ask her about are her music. You know, she's this massively successful artist. [09:05] singer songwriter and, um, [09:08] But I don't think I ever asked her in detail enough her real early influences. And what was the first song that she fell in love with? I love that. On set, is there a singing song? [09:20] When Jane Lynch was on, there's always singing. Yeah. [09:25] Steve sometimes will bring his banjo.

[09:29] Uh, [09:31] You know what I say about the banjo? [09:34] Banjo makes people who play the jugs say... [09:37] Really? But anyway, but no, there's not a lot of singing. There's a lot of gossip. It doesn't have to be true. [09:46] Yeah, just make it up. [09:47] You know what I heard? [09:51] Okay, I'm going to ask her about her early musical influences. That's a good question, I think. And I do want to talk to her about her successful business, because I do think that, you know, not to get too heavy, Marty, but in our patriarchal society, I think we like totally... [10:06] you know, [10:07] We don't treat female-run businesses, especially by young women, especially in the beauty space, as a serious business. And it is crushing everything else. Let me tell you something. [10:16] When I look at not only what Selina's done, but... [10:21] what you've done and what, [10:24] Tina's done. I find myself very proud of you ladies. [10:29] Well, that seems weird and patronizing. Proud of us. I am proud because... What are you, my dad? No, I just feel like, you know, because you could just be saying... [10:42] You want cream in that coffee, but you're not. This doesn't feel good. [10:48] I'm trying to be as kind as a condescending guy can be. [10:58] I love you so much. Thank you. I remember Dyson, but I will repeat it when we're off. Oh, it's from the SNL 50th.

[11:06] oh god i can't wait my phone is standing by actually you and myself [11:19] Yeah. [11:20] You have mine. What? I don't like to talk on the phone. Can you just text it to me? No, no, no. It's too long. Oh, my God. What is wrong with the phone? I don't like talking on the phone. A phone call feels... First of all, this isn't going to be the length of Shoah. It was a brief little story. To me, a phone call is bad news. Like, why am I on the phone? No, no, no, no. [11:50] Again, oh my God, I so don't mean this condescendingly. But is your thing about the phone because you really don't like it or because you read Cher doesn't like the phone? Well, you know that I try to not... [12:04] like anything that Cher doesn't like. I know. You know how I do. I know. I would, you know what, just snap me. Just Snapchat me. Okay. I'm not, you know what, this is too boring. I'm not giving you this information. I can't. Shit. Okay. I'm calling you right now. I'm calling you right now. Okay. Hanging up so I can get this. Bye. Love you, Marty. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. This episode is brought [12:34] happen. How many times have you, oh, I don't know, dug around in your purse and pulled out mascara and thought it was lipstick?

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[14:20] I can't. I have to pinch myself. We have a lot to talk about because you're running, you know, you founded, created and you're running a billion dollar business, two billion dollar business. You have a huge hit show on the air. You have the love of your life. You've got you've like the past couple of years have. [14:36] felt like they've been this big... [14:38] joyous explosion of things. And I always like to ask people, it's like, if this was, if your life is a book, what is the title of this chapter? Oh, yeah. [14:50] Gosh, can I pitch you some ideas? Yes. [14:55] I would say something like really simple, but poetic, like, um, [15:00] the best part yet. Oh. Or, um, [15:06] The best is yet to come. The best is yet to come. Or the best is here. The best is here, babe. Oh. Or what is the best? [15:18] Let me tell you. I'm 33 and feeling free or whatever. But I want to speak to you as a... [15:25] person talking to a deeply successful entrepreneur. I mean, you are... [15:33] The founder of a gigantic, successful business that, in my opinion, like does a lot of things, gets a lot of things very right. When you were a young person, what was your relationship to makeup and beauty? Did you have a house where people were doing that? Did you? Yeah, it's actually interesting because my my Nana was all about self care as as far as, you know, taking good care.

[15:58] care of your skin. But my mom was a makeup artist. So yes, and she worked at Mac. So she had like, she's at the counter. And I love it. You know, like, I think she she would give me all of her products that she was done with. And she would do them for photo shoots in Dallas, Texas for like little things. And it was really cool. So yeah, I remember playing with it a lot. I wasn't allowed [16:28] considering the pictures I see now, I just would, I would stick on all the colors. And it just was really fun for me to play with. And now my sister is gonna be 13. I know. So weird, but she's awesome. 12 to 13 is an interesting bridge. Very. It's so weird. Even her getting her nails done sometimes freaks me out. Yeah. And also, I noticed that like 12, you're still kind of, [16:55] You're like, [16:56] dance around and be goofy. And sometimes something happens with, with boys and girls, it's, it's not gendered where like you just start to be, [17:05] conscious of being self-conscious and you just, I know. Well, that's what I was going to say is my 12 versus her 12. It's, it is a vast difference and it makes me... [17:18] worried and also encouraged because I have, you know, trust in my sister and she's a very sweet girl. She's very goofy still. So I try to like pull that out of her. Yeah. It's like you want to keep the goofiness going for as long as possible. And also that just is at any age, basically, like no matter the person like you want to. It's the secret to life, but it's so hard to learn, which is if you can just have fun without worrying about what other people think of

[17:48] That's the power, but it takes so long to learn. It's true. But she's been like, you know, when you were Joy, it was actually I really wanted to ask you about that movie because I watched it with my sister and I completely sobbed. Yeah. [18:18] and it would break my heart and [18:21] My sister watched it and she started crying and it's... [18:25] Was that just crazy? Yeah, you know, I think what, for people listening, I think you're referring, no, to Inside Out. Yes. And in the second one, are you talking about Inside Out too? Yeah. Yeah, there's that, like, kind of heartbreak that happens when anxiety moves in. Yes. And suddenly the emotion of anxiety moves in. And I have to say, same, no matter the age, you're either feeling it in real time as a young person, you're remembering that feeling as a person in your 30s and 40s or 50s or above. [18:55] moment when [18:57] Your paint set, you know, got... [19:00] some darker colors in it. And it's, [19:04] I mean, it's part of growing up, but it's... [19:07] It's brutal. It is. I just thought you did. I mean, how is everyone a part of that movie? I know. I just think it's incredible. And congratulations. I'm going to make my children watch it. Oh, my God. Your children. I know. I want to be I want to see. I know. I know. I know they don't exist yet, but I can't wait. I don't. I also want to talk to you about like typical day

[19:37] three to four full-time jobs. Yes. And one would be enough and you have a lot of full-time jobs and, you know, um, you know, [19:46] the great Martin Short. I spoke to him earlier today because we like to talk well behind our guests back. And he's, you know, he's such so in love with you. And he was just saying, like, I never see Selena, like, overwhelmed. Like, she doesn't do that thing, which is like, oh, [20:02] I can't handle today. Right. Even though she's got a million things that she's dealing with at once. What's a typical day like for you? Well, I love him so much. That isn't always true, though. I think it's I well, you know, it's about, of course, typical answer balance. But it is when I when I am doing only murders, it's. [20:23] You know, it can be 12 to 14 hour days and it's five days a week and I have... [20:28] My entire love and attention is focused on that. So when I do get to work on anything film or TV related, I kind of have to have all of my focus there. It does not mean that I am not answering emails. Well, texts. I don't like emails. Oh, my God. Marty wanted to talk on the phone. I was like, are you nuts? [20:51] I've turned into Steve and Marty. We'll get there. But I've turned into both of them somehow. And you're sending faxes? [20:58] Yes, and I don't... Using a file of facts? Yeah, I just, I'm always, if I have an idea or I smell something or I feel something, I'm super close with Joyce, who basically is my product go-to guru. If I want to create something out of thin air, she...

[21:19] a thousand percent will go there and it could be a complete failure but you can be like i i touched this lemon today how cool would it be to like have a lemon you know do we have a lemon scrub in the line that's interesting or whatever yeah i definitely will come up with things what have you come up with that you're like that was good well when we first started the company um i'd say [21:49] that was that was one of the most important you know moments for rare and I think the the texture and the way we'd play with it and all the colors all of it feels like you're a chemist in a way and you can just feel it and smell it even and I I was able to go to Italy where you know we did most of our products and it's [22:15] It's wild. You know, it's just it's a whole process. You have tons of different people using the stuff that you make. I was really impressed. And I didn't know this, that you have [22:28] easily accessible products. They're easy to open. Yes. Um, [22:35] Why was that important to you? And what do you have to do to make that happen? So I have a few medical things, but I have arthritis in my fingers and that's due to my lupus. So I remember before the brand, I was trying to open a water bottle and it hurt really bad before I was on the right medication. Hmm.

[22:58] And we somehow... [23:01] inherently made the products easy to open. And then we realized, wait, [23:09] they kind of have to be that way. And then we started to make every product with the intention of anybody who have dexterity problems. Um, [23:22] And I know that might seem like a little thing, but it's really not because it's actually so helpful for anyone at any age to be able to use the products. And and that's why we want to make them easy and accessible, because that's important to me and it always has been. So even down to our fragrance, the pump is very easy for me to use. [23:52] And [23:53] challenges, health challenges to inform your story and your product because it really makes people feel very seen. Definitely. And I think there's, you know, there's so much stigma behind so many different illnesses. I don't know. I've been through it. So I think I just know how it feels. And I really want everyone to feel... [24:16] As good as I do now, you know. Do we have the scent here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. May I? Yes, please. Look, so this is my fake food wall. I really, really love this. We have some of this at our home. You do? Yeah. What kind of stuff do you hear? Do you recognize? Okay, already I'm loving this for a couple reasons. Well, okay. Basically, we have orange peels that look so real and they're all over the house that people keep mistaking them as...

[24:39] trash, but it's art. And there's fake orange peels? [24:44] Yeah. Art. It's art. [24:47] I love it. Might be my fiance's choice. [24:52] So, yes. Benny's like, babe, we've got to get these orange peels. But it's like, they're the deal. And you're like, okay, I'm afraid people are going to throw them away. Yeah, multiple people have tried. But, yeah, so can I show you? Yes, please. Basically, it's, so to lock it, it's just that little simple turn to unlock it. And what are we calling this fragrance? This is called Rare Eau de Parfum. I learned that. [25:17] My rare perfume. So you can do it with, you know, your hand. You can do it however you feel like if you want to. Oh, I was going to spray it right in my eyes. I can smell it right now. So I know. I just realized I overdid it. No, let me smell. Let me take it in. It will definitely. Oh, yeah, it smells nice. It'll settle. I honestly can taste it. I'm sorry how many times I speak. I'm like, it's in my mouth. It smells. It's, you know, the very funny bit, which is like, [25:47] you'd walk through it oh it's the gentle yes yes and um thing i think that's what i should have done okay this smells really good everybody here we're waiting for it to calm down everybody likes to smell in here it'll be here for a minute and then we light it on fire yeah we really do some

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[29:10] Um, here's your first, he was like my first guest, him and Tina and, um, [29:16] And and him and Steve, you know, are heroes of mine and I'm sure of yours, too. And I grew up loving them. But I also have the pleasure and privilege to know that they're really wonderful to work with. And when you guys all started working together and of course, the show is a big, giant hit. And I said, I'm. [29:35] You know, what's it like working with Selena? Like, she seems great, but, you know, you never know. Never know. And every report back has been and always has been like, you're such a pro. My papa used to say, if you are on time, you're already late. [29:52] So that means I get to places 30 minutes before or I've had my team has had to trick me because I show up so early. But I like to be prepared and to say hi and not be rushed. The feeling of being rushed is very stressful. But then on top of it, I start working with Steve and Marty and they really, you know, spearhead the whole process. [30:19] You know, they started the pyramid and everything happens and they just... [30:23] They are so professional. They make everyone feel good. They lighten up any room, even if it's a serious scene. And that's a huge... [30:35] inspiration to me. And... [30:38] It just they've been working for so long. And if I'm tired and they're not, sometimes I'm like, whoa, OK, I can do this. You know, they they've really I've been very lucky to work with people who are, you know, punctual. And I just like it because I want everyone to work and have an enjoyable experience. I don't think people realize in our industry, like most jobs, you get in trouble if you're late.

[31:02] Yeah. Or you get fired. [31:04] But in our industry, in the music industry, in the acting and television and film, it's [31:13] people sometimes just don't come on time. And it's a really weird thing because in almost every other industry, you can't, [31:22] You can't. [31:23] get away with how you eat. Yeah, I wonder why. I don't, I have theories. I think sometimes genuinely, like, real, like, the magnanimous theory is that real artists, like, are often... [31:36] you know, in their own kind of creative space and like time isn't maybe they're, [31:42] Time management maybe isn't their biggest skill. Yeah. That's a that's a generous way to think about it. [31:48] And then the less generous way is I think to your point about anxiety for some people, [31:55] there's just like a struggle that, [31:59] to figure out the power dynamics and one way to get power is to make people wait it's my worst nightmare that's [32:06] I honestly would start crying only because it stresses me out. It's so stressful. It's also, I don't want to hurt, I guess it wouldn't be hurting people's feelings because they don't probably care like about me that way. But I think it's disrespectful. No, it's not to say everyone live their life the way they want to.

[32:36] in 30 minutes. I'd be like, I know. Like there's, I mean, we all make mistakes for humans, but there are the few times that I've overslept or I, I'm, [32:46] I... [32:47] I cannot tolerate the feeling of knowing people are waiting. That's so nice to know that there's more people like that. Are you an early to airport person? No. [32:57] I don't push it, but I don't like being in an airport because it like... [33:09] is, as you can tell, I'm a very anxious person in a way, but I don't know. It gets me... [33:17] Yeah. Like overstimulated. You want to you want to kind of like I want to keep walking right there and then get my little. Yeah. [33:25] like it. I'm the opposite. Okay. I like to get there with plenty of time. Okay. Go look at the gate. Go look at the gate. You have to see. Yeah, I have to see the gate. That's true. Make sure it's there. Make sure it's there. [33:39] Look at the plane. Look at the gate. Very like airport dad. Love that. Go up to the person and be like... [33:45] Looks like we're taking up on time. Like, I like to kick the tires a little bit. I love that. And have plenty of time to just, like, be a little hypervigilant. But I understand. The airport is a nightmare. It's just overstimulating. But I will say, if I'm at the Dallas airport... [34:01] I like to take my time. Ooh, why? What's it? First off, it's my home. Second, it's.

[34:07] Just, I mean, what a burger. They have the best restaurants. It doesn't even feel like you're at an airport. It's like you could get lost there. I just want to spend time there. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's a very push and pull thing because it could be overstimulating. Sometimes I like to try to get my steps in. Oh, that's clever. I'm not always thinking too much about my steps, but if I can get them in. Yes. [34:32] The airport is a great place to get them in. Now, have you seen the people who ride... [34:37] their suitcases. You can do that. There's automatic. I've actually seen it. I do believe you can find it on TikTok or something. It is grown. Yes. I get it for the kids, but it's a little hilarious. And I don't need to be unfair, but if a man was riding his suitcase, that's a hell no. And you're kind of. Yeah, that's so true. Or anyone who brings their own pillow. [35:07] it's very stressful to me and adults with their own pillow. [35:12] Again, if you need your pillow for support, I understand. But if you don't, I could have it. Okay, so back to Marty. So... [35:20] So Marty, first of all, what I find so interesting, I mean, you have been... [35:25] this is a really deeply comedic role on a show with deeply comedic people and it keeps getting recognized. [35:33] And, you know, by your peers and. [35:37] lauded by critics and, you know, people can't wait for season five, which is coming out this week.

[35:44] But you have been funny for a very long time. Oh, God. Thank you. That's a huge problem. And you were very funny on Wizards. Thank you. And. I'm like, what? How have you seen it? But you've had the chops for a long time. You've had your timing, which is so much, you know, is such a big. Yeah. It's. [36:08] Wow, I can't even get this sentence out. This is how bad my timing is. But it's true. Your timing has always been impeccable. Thank you. I don't... I am... It's because I grew up and should have probably been more outside, but I grew up watching Will and Grace, Friends, of course, you know, Channel 33 would be Frasier after, um... [36:33] Yeah, I don't. Who did you love? Who were your comedic heroes growing up? Oh, well, I mean... [36:41] That's different because I feel like when I have watched, because I didn't watch like stand up. It was actually introduced to me. [36:51] when I was probably like 18, just because I was this Texas pumpkin that just didn't really know. And I think the first one I ever watched was, I believe it was, see, I'm terrible. Oh, Ali Wong when she was pregnant. No way. That was your first standup special. Yeah. And I just completely lost it. So now it's almost like a morning thing where I'll like,

[37:21] It's actually, I have a whole appreciation and, you know, obviously for Steve and Marty, knowing their history and their stories, it's pretty... [37:30] It's pretty inspiring. I don't know how other than just I watched a lot of TV and I thought about the timing. [37:38] But I will say Wizards was so fun because I had the room to mess up. And it's okay if it really failed and was cheesy because it was Disney. So it was fun. Yeah. Now this was a bit scarier. Yeah. I would be intimidated to do a TV show with them, I have to say. They're really deeply funny. And they're really good joke writers. They're very good. And their material, like they're always searching for like the better joke. It is. [38:08] It's true. Trust me, I will be right in the middle of them figuring it out. And I'm like, it's funny, guys. It's funny. We got it. I know. I mean, still, you know, when I work with them or people that are kind of like trained in that world, it's still amazing to me how you'll think everything is really ready to go and [38:27] people, you know, the best comedians will just keep going. But do you think up until the very last minute? That is something that I love, though, because it's so fun. But I must have heard their bits 100 times that I could finish them. But so I just try to at a group hang, I'm just listening and I'm laughing again and doing the whole thing to just be like, wow. And it's the

[38:57] It's actually so sweet because they've been best friends for like 35 years. Yeah, their relationship is really awesome to watch. It's so cute. I love it. And, you know, having truly looked up to both of them when I was growing up, [39:12] they, [39:14] I can't believe that I know them. Like, I actually can't believe that they're friends of mine. Yeah. Who is someone that you can't believe you're friends with? Honestly, them and Meryl. Yes. I... [39:27] I can't even imagine. Like, my life is really weird sometimes because we have gotten incredibly lucky with people who love to just come and join our show. We don't. [39:41] You know, we want to create a space where people can have fun. So that's genuinely, I believe and hope that is the reason people like to come on the show. Because we just have fun and you can be a quirky character or be whatever you want. Yeah. So I feel like I lost track of what I was. Well, I was saying, who can you believe you're friends with? Oh, I mean, yes. I mean, yes. But everyone. Dave Vine. I love Michael Creighton. I love. Yeah. Um... [40:08] Richard Kind. I'm sorry. He's one of my favorite. Bing bong. I know. I'm too obsessed with your movie. Every time I see Richard Kind and I've gotten a chance to see him recently, I have this [40:23] reaction because of his voice because he [40:26] We never recorded together, but in Inside Out, he played Bing Bong, an amazing character. And Richard is such a, like...

[40:33] big personality. He's so great. And it's but it's very filled with a ton of pathos. Like you really feel big feelings. Definitely. Richard just makes me laugh. He doesn't even try. He's just one time he had to walk down a hall and open a door and he just like walked all the way down. And we watched him walk past the door that he was supposed to open to go to the next door and knock. And then the other person answered from the other door and looked down the hall and he goes, [41:03] I didn't know that. And I was like, yes, you did. We shot it like 15 times. And then do you guys improvise? Like, do you do like, do you, do you have freedom takes is what we called them. But freedom takes, we called them on parks and recreation. We call them fun runs. [41:17] Oh, that's awesome. I like that. Sounds more fun. Freedom takes. Yeah. Freedom takes. That's exactly what Marty will say. OK, OK, but let's do a freedom take. And then and then we can have fun and do whatever and try things. It's funny when it's so funny. And then it's hilarious when it doesn't land. Oh, I know. Because they hit it and then no one laughs. And you're like, I have a good idea. I can't wait to bring it out on this freedom take. And then you do it. And everyone's like moving on. Yeah. Oh, and it's happened. I equally. [41:47] get it too because they they are they're very sweet to me but they'll they'll let me know when a joke fails they're like yeah that didn't work i was like okay i really appreciate it they're pros they will not they will not say it's funny if it's not yeah um

[42:04] And okay, we should take a lip balm break, by the way. Sure. I take a lip. Do you have your lip? Yeah, I do. Oh, okay. [42:10] What kind of balm do you use? [42:14] You don't know which one? Well, I mean, I'm sponsored by Laneige. I see. Okay. But I could be sponsored by Rare Beauty. I'm not. You're hilarious. I want you to do what your contract says. But my contract is if I have a beauty contract. [42:31] You know, Selena, my beauty contracts. What do you mean? It's hard to keep them straight. [42:40] I want you to try this one. [42:43] Oh, these are great. It just feels good. The reviews in, they're great. If you just let them in. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like it a lot. So let's get to Marty's question. Oh, good grief. Marty had a question for you. And it was a sweet one, I think, because, you know, he was saying, you know, [42:59] he was like, I don't think I talked to Selena enough about her music, you know, and she's such a sweet, I know it's such a cute thing to say. And I mean, also let's point out that both Steve and Marty on top of being, [43:13] you know, comedic geniuses are also excellent musicians. It's true. But he, he, his question was very, you know, sweet, which is basically like, just like, hold on, let me get it right. [43:24] Okay, so he said, like, who were some of your early musical influences and what was the song that you fell in love with early? [43:32] Oh, I know. Well, it was interesting because my dad growing up was a DJ. So I definitely remember listening to a lot of 90s hip hop. But my mom was very creative. So when she would paint, she'd listen to classical music when, you know, other things were.

[43:54] were happening should kind of go with the energy. And then on my dad's side, it was a lot of Tejano music. So I loved listening to... [44:03] All styles of music. What is it about Tejano music that makes it specifically that kind of music? How would you describe it to people who don't listen to it? I think, well, Linda Ronstadt has an incredible album that is in Spanish. And she... [44:18] To me, since, you know, the days of Selena Quintanilla, who kind of popped, you know, made it like a pop version of it. Yeah. [44:28] Linda's, I thought, was incredible, too, because it's so musically... [44:34] charged. Yeah. The instruments make everything sound so grand. And then you feel like you want to move. That's one of the best feelings. And it just just hearing her. I don't know if you've heard any of that album, but I have. She's it's so she's definitely like a voice of my childhood. Yeah. Well, like her. My mom used to play Linda. Yeah. She's just an amazing singer. [45:04] in a different language? It does. It's so weird. I don't know why. I only have one EP in Spanish and a few songs I've recorded in Spanish for various things and I don't know why. Yeah. It's so interesting. I can imagine because it's like I don't know. It's [45:23] You're yourself, but you're playing a different version of yourself, a character in a way. And it's so interesting to be singing...

[45:32] It's really funny to me. I don't really get it, but I like it. Yeah. And you are now living with a musician. Yes. Two musicians. Yes. What's it like in a house with two musicians? Orange peels everywhere. Well, there's orange peels to go around. Yeah. [45:49] And I'd say he's obviously, hands down, I hope everyone would agree with me, musically talented in a... [46:00] stratosphere that I couldn't even touch, you know, and I and it's not because I'm playing down myself. I I'm really not. I'm just I'm just saying I respect him as an artist, as a producer, as a songwriter and everything that he does. He puts his whole heart into. I will listen to the same beats over and over and over again. [46:30] Thank you. [46:30] more as an actress. So there isn't any competition, I guess, not that there would be. The last album I released was with Benny. And it was amazing. Yeah. Because I was proud of something and it was mine and ours. And it was fun. But I think I think I really depend on him for, you know, any of the tastes, playlists, that kind of stuff. Congrats on your engagement. Thank you so much. [47:00] I have to say the other thing that I've loved watching you over the years, again, not knowing you, but just like being like, oh, cool. Selena's trying this. Your cooking show. I love a cooking show. Yeah. And I love cooking. And it was for me, it was a new experience. I didn't really start cooking until I was in my 40s. I didn't really grow up. You know, I had a working mom. We didn't have, you know, we didn't. There wasn't a ton of I didn't cook in the home when I was young and I had my kids. I was working a lot. I didn't cook as much.

[47:30] and [47:32] So I'm always drawn to... [47:35] People... [47:36] teaching me how to cook and watching people cook. You are too. What kind of? So the whole, this is what I love when people say, you are... [47:46] A chef because you had a cooking show. [47:49] No. Right. But you like... The idea, yes. The idea and the concept of the show is that I simply don't know how. And I think... [47:59] Over a few seasons, it's safe to say, I still don't know how. Because it was incredible recipes that were so intricate. And I think that was very challenging for me. But it was fun because I'd get it right. But it would take me five to seven hours to do it. But what I liked about it is... It's crazy. You know, you're basically, to your point, you're watching somebody learn. And you're learning with them. [48:29] To be... [48:30] Even behind the people watching. Oh, yeah. That's actually what I do with Benny. Benny feels... I don't know if he'd admit this, but he likes when I sit in the kitchen with him because... [48:42] He tells me what he's doing. And I think it's the cutest thing in the world because I'll sit there and I'm just like, now what? He'll go, so we're going to make sure these onions are fully chopped and I'm going to caramelize them, whatever. I don't even know what lingo. He's like, I'm going to do this, chop the basil. And then he completely loses himself in cooking. And I love that. I just think it's so endearing. Well, I think cooking is a good way, speaking of anxiety for me.

[49:12] Yes. [49:14] Because it's very low risk, high reward. If you don't, if it doesn't work out, like whatever, you just order in or just try. But if it does, you feel really good about yourself. You're very proud. Yeah. For sure. I, I... [49:27] I enjoy cooking. I really do. I just find it very intimidating to do with many because he has. Yeah. [49:36] He has, he's so good. He's just really good at it. Yeah. It's almost just too threatening. So one time I made dinner for my friends and he got so offended. He was like, why haven't you done that for me? I'm like, cause mine was frozen. And then I added a sauce. He does everything. I'm dealing with the sauce. I can't take it. I can't talk to you right now, but I try. What is your, what's a meal that you like that you know to cook and you cook? Oh, my Nana's chicken and dumplings. It's a [50:06] dish. It's very good. It's biscuits and these chicken strips. Just shredded chicken and a soup. It's the best cozy weather dish. [50:21] That sounds good. It's so fun. I love also, you know, to like zoom out. What was great about that show is. [50:30] You know, it's just you enjoying food. Yeah. Because... I love food. You talk a lot about making sure that you stay healthy. Yeah. What is your... How has your relationship with food changed? It hasn't necessarily changed. It's broadened. Mm-hmm. And...

[50:48] And he has spoiled me a little bit. Because he's... [50:52] Again, not to talk about it all the time, but he would... [50:58] He would take a recipe and turn it into something even better. So... [51:04] It's really funny. I'm just totally airing him out right now. But I think he... [51:10] He does this thing where he'll say... [51:13] I'll say, wow, this risotto is incredible. And he'll taste it and say, well, you know, I would I probably would have added this, but it's very good. I just think if you put more and then like you see how this is set in and I just like to like see. [51:27] stare at him because it's so cute. He's constantly tweaking it. Yeah, he always, he always says he can make it better. And it's not a lie. It's just the most adorable thing. He's gonna be like, what? It's a very sweet, like making food for someone is a really tender act. It is a really loving, very kind act. And he I just get sometimes stressed because he doesn't need to do it. But he reminds me, like you said, it's very therapeutic for him. At least I can speak for me where you [51:57] tonight. Okay. And your brain, you know, you're, [52:00] Your anxiety brain, your squirrel brain needs to land on something. And then it can land on a list. And it can think about timing. And it has to click clack away on something. And if it's just the meal that night, it can be really helpful. Yeah. And it's also done. There's something about finishing that thing. It's a feeling of accomplishment. Yeah. And I totally get that. It's the same feeling as me watching that.

[52:29] like TikToks of people cooking. Those are my favorite. Me too. I could just, I just appreciate it so much. And then they're so interesting from different cuisines around the world. And it's just really... [52:43] Yeah, that's that's me. That would be my feed for sure. Do you go on TikTok? Because that must be treacherous. No. So I actually haven't been on TikTok. That's great. And I'm sorry, TikTok. But no, it's OK. All social media platforms, I'm sure, hate me at this point. So I'm always like, I don't know. It's very scary. 400 million Instagram followers. So it's fine. But I mean, it's fine. [53:13] I don't understand it sometimes. It's just a very interesting thing. Because my experience with social media, I think, is... [53:26] we may share a similarity, which is that I feel it's like treacherous, but it can be to your point, like you can find ways to feel connection. Definitely. I think it's important for that element for me to have a connection with, you know, just my community. I'm not sure I'll always be that way forever, but I think right now it's been a great resource for me to connect with [53:56] a few months now even when I post sometimes it's just to make sure it's like

[54:03] like on my post and feed and then I don't look at anything. Well, you've been very generous in sharing your life with people. Yeah. And I like happening and I like doing it my way, you know, and I think if I were to get... [54:17] And to something and I sorry, I'm all over the place. But and I also just want people to know, like, if it didn't come from me, it's 90 percent false or anything. I just love being able to say this is where I am and I'm enjoying it. And yeah, I'm willing to share that part of my life. And maybe it'll change, but I enjoy it. Yeah. And then it leads me kind of to one of our last questions, which is basically. [54:46] energy, giving it energy, [54:48] getting it like it sounds like for every person, [54:52] in their 30s. I would say it's one of the big lessons is figuring out, okay, if your 20s is like trying to figure out, you know, what you don't want to do and who you don't want to be, then your 30s become like, okay, let's, let's, let's give energy to the things that I want to have grow. Of course. So how do you, how do you, [55:12] What have you learned about, you know, self-care and boundaries and all this way in which you can be, you know, open about your life or you can share the things that you're happy about and you can feel the love and support from people who have supported you. I definitely don't read anything. I don't have comments enabled on my on my on my page just simply because I want it to be fun for me.

[55:42] - Thank you. [55:43] me wanting to share that with the world. Oh, sorry. That's my ride, guys. Wait, this is why Selena is such a pro is that she just stopped talking during a siren. You just like, you know, go looking for trouble. I don't think it's healthy. So I'll say on the social part, if you're depending on it, it's really scary. But have a healthy relationship with it. I think it's [56:13] But yeah, I don't let anything in that I don't need because it's not where I am. And you kind of like spoke about karma earlier. What's amazing about the work that you do is you give a lot back. You give a lot of your time and you give a lot of your money and in many ways, you know. [56:33] Time can be [56:36] harder to give than money and you give both and it's you have for a very long time like you toured with unicef for many many years you were an ambassador where beauty gives a ton of money i was really impressed with what you guys do and that's also the community because one percent of our products so it's again it's people contributing yeah helping it's awesome young people have access to mental health [56:59] When you are kind of one-on-one dealing with someone, you've now been famous for a really long time, and you have a lot of people who grew up with you and feel really invested in you, and that's energy, right? Yes. Like, they want to connect with you. You feel that. Yes. I know you've been, like, extremely...

[57:17] loving and very supportive of people, but it's a lot to be approached sometimes with people, [57:23] a lot of energy. So what do you say no to now that you didn't before? Or how do you kind of like guard your own energy, your own? It's very difficult for me to say no to people that I get to encounter. It's my Nana taking her 14th picture of my outfit. I'm like, I can't do this. [57:53] But I don't think... [57:56] I don't know how to answer that. Well, it's... [58:02] I mean, maybe it's just become intuitive and also feels, may I answer for you? Well, let me, yeah, because I'm thinking. Well, because I feel protective of you because as a woman who is older and, you know, I think you're, any woman in their 30s, I think is, [58:19] doing that thing where they're trying to figure out basically what is expensive for me with energy. Basically, you start. Yes. Protecting it. It is. And I think that'll happen more so. [58:33] If I when I have kids. Yeah. I'll probably put more boundaries up for. Yeah. [58:39] you know, the sake of the sanity of, you know, what that will look like. I have no idea, but I, [58:46] I just...

[58:48] I feel like I owe... [58:50] A lot of people in the world are. [58:53] Any sort of smile, hug, smile. [58:57] you know, picture. So it's very hard when I don't do it. I promise you it's because I'm I'm either really having a hard time dealing with my anxiety or I'm late. Like that's usually which I'm never late. But like if I have to go somewhere, but in general, it's it's. [59:18] It's very, it's, it's a lot. Cause I love doing it. I think about it too much where I'll think about if I missed that one person, it's so, it, it can get crazy in my head. It can be a little crazy making. And it's, and, and Marty said something really sweet, which is like, you know, when, when you guys shoot in New York, you know, and there's whatever, you know, shooting in New York, just like living in New York is this year constantly on display and people will, you know, take photos. And he said like, [59:46] Selina really understands that that's kind of part of the exchange and it doesn't really bother her unless anyone is rude to her. [59:53] to anybody who's like, [59:55] You get very mom-aware about that. I get very, yeah. I actually, that was probably one of the... [1:00:02] the pictures from season two someone said a vile word to someone else and it was a photographer thankfully not a [1:00:12] fan of the show, but... [1:00:15] I just looked at him and I gave him the finger and there's just one shot of me and he missed it. So he wasn't even the one that got it because I looked at him and I was just like,

[1:00:26] And he like... [1:00:27] The other people started laughing and I was like, I don't even care. I'm just so I can't tolerate that kind of stuff. But then they want that reaction. I know they're baiting you, but, you know, you're a human being. I just one finger in 33 years. Like there's probably been a couple more. We could probably find them. It's fine. OK, so I always ask my guests this. What what stuff are you listening to right now? [1:00:54] Watching. [1:00:55] Reading that makes you laugh because it's not it's a it's there's a you've had in a beautiful couple of years. And also, you know, in the midst of like, there's a lot of heaviness in the world. Everybody is all we're all in different spaces and places. And. [1:01:13] You've provided a lot of comedy for people who really want to... Your show provides that for a lot of people. Who does that for you? Who are you? Oh, well... [1:01:25] It's more so... [1:01:28] The experiences I have. I love encountering people. [1:01:33] silly moments and spontaneity because, you know, [1:01:39] I don't have a lot of that in my life because I try to schedule everything. So whenever something is spontaneous or... [1:01:48] Even just being on Only Murders, as long as we work, it's those are the joyous, you know, making someone laugh or or just having, you know, your partner laugh with you and you're watching a movie together. It's what movies made you laugh lately? Lately, Friendship.

[1:02:08] Oh, yeah. Are you a Tim Robinson fan? Yes. I love Tim Robinson so much. It was hilarious. And very, it was so funny because a lot of like mixed emotions for people, but I was just like... [1:02:22] This is just so funny because how, you know, broad it is. Him and Paul read her great knit. And also Tim Robinson is... [1:02:31] like the best kind of insane. I mean, it's like, where does he come up? My kids are obsessed with Tim Robbins. Oh, that's awesome. And have you watched his TV show? No. Oh, that's what. Yeah, that's what I need to get on. You're going to love it. [1:02:47] It's because I think you should leave. I think it's three seasons. Okay. It's so what I'll be doing now. [1:02:53] I love it. I love it. But I'm also a big, like, lately we've seen all the horror films. Okay, you like to be scared? I loved Weapons. Oh, yeah. That movie. Oh, thank you. I know, I know. I just don't like to be scared. I know, but I heard it's amazing. About 70% of the people in my life loathe the fact that I watched it. I saw the thing with the children running, and I was like, that's a hell no for me. No way am I going to the movie. Like, two tickets, please. No way. [1:03:23] I know. No way. I know. It's such a weird thing. I do. I do. But I like things that are interesting mentally. Not a lot of gore, but. Yeah. [1:03:36] You want like an intrigue-y, suspenseful... Yeah, give me the jump scares every now and then. What's your favorite horror movie? Or one of your favorites? Oh, all time?

[1:03:46] What do you like? I would say... [1:03:49] Ah. [1:03:51] I don't know. I really loved... [1:03:56] I'm trying to think. Barbarian. Oh, yeah. The first Conjuring was really... [1:04:03] one that I'll never forget because I was terrified. If you don't watch it, then you never have to forget it. Yeah, that's true. That's true. So I would say one of those for sure. Yeah. [1:04:13] Okay, well, I think You Should Leave is so great. Okay. You'll love it. Highly recommend. Watch one horror movie and then watch... A deal. Six episodes. Because that's how we do, you know, I do have to watch something nice after. Yeah, to cleanse the palate. But no, I'm so... I have to. And you're not the only person, so I'm like, I need to have a new show to just... [1:04:31] laugh at. Well, thank you so much for coming. I'm so happy that I got to do this. Thank you so much for having me. Of course. It's a pleasure and truly congrats on all the good stuff that's coming your way and can't wait for what's ahead. I mean, future only, babe. Yeah. [1:04:46] Oh, that's the name of the book. Future Only, babe. [1:04:50] The past is the past. [1:04:52] uh [1:04:54] Robots. Robots. Robots. Lip balm. [1:04:58] Tech, all of it. Tech, all of it. That's also your next chapter. Tech, all of it. And then just blank pages. [1:05:09] And then you just have your grandmother's recipe. I love it. Thank you so much. It was so great.

[1:05:18] Thank you so much, Selena. Wow. You're just a total peach. And it was really nice talking to you. [1:05:28] the spirit of what Selena does, right? She just gives back and she really tries to make sure that she's donating her time and energy to people who need it. I just wanted to say that I've been working a lot with Blood Cancer United and they help people. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not [1:05:47] patients who are dealing with cancer, all different kinds of blood cancers. And September is Childhood Cancer Month. So look, [1:05:57] You know, there may be some people listening right now who are dealing with it, who have experience with it, but... [1:06:03] there's [1:06:04] Just that moment when you really need support and love. And the people at Blood Cancer United definitely provide that, among many other things, resources, information. [1:06:16] I don't know. I just feel very moved by the way Selena uses her platform. And in an attempt to do that today, I would encourage you all to go to bloodcancerunited.org and donate what you can. It makes a big difference, especially in these times. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. Thank you, Selena, for coming. And we'll see you soon. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. [1:06:46] The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, and Alea Zanaris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.

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